{"id":472,"date":"2014-02-20T14:22:22","date_gmt":"2014-02-20T21:22:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/pastormathis.com\/?p=472"},"modified":"2015-08-31T14:23:06","modified_gmt":"2015-08-31T20:23:06","slug":"questions-about-the-disappearing-works-of-doug-phillips","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/pastormathis.com\/index.php\/2014\/02\/20\/questions-about-the-disappearing-works-of-doug-phillips\/","title":{"rendered":"Questions about the disappearing works of Doug Phillips"},"content":{"rendered":"

That’s correct: Doug Phillips’ lectures, sermons, articles and interviews are disappearing. Naturally, whatever was on Vision Forum’s websites (both of them) is missing. But they are being removed from the website of the National Center for Family Integrated Churches (NCFIC<\/a>) (which organization he founded).<\/p>\n

In one sense I can understand why he would be an embarrassment to the family integrated church movement. On the other hand, regardless of his fault in practice, if what he believed was true and he spoke well on the topic, why not keep the lectures up?<\/p>\n

It is not as though he has to be plastered on the first page of the website. Why not be able to look him up in the search section<\/a>? That’s all I was trying to do in finding his original lectures from the NCFIC’s 2009 Sufficiency of Scripture Conference<\/a>.<\/p>\n

Now, it makes sense that the organization he founded, promoted and expanded over the years would be tempted to downplay his persona\u2014even to the point of expunging his lectures and articles from their website. But I do not understand why other independent organizations, that, say, interviewed him, would excise him from their repertoire of podcasts?<\/p>\n

Generations Radio<\/a>, part of Christian Home Educators of Colorado<\/a>, removed various podcast interviews with Doug Philips from sermonaudio.com, including one with much useful information about the NCFIC and Phillips’ (and the hosts’) view on the revivalistic powers of homeschooling and family integrated churches:<\/p>\n

\u201cHome educators, almost by definition, have turned their heart to their children [Mal. 4] . . . So there\u2019s been a revival that\u2019s taking place in the heart of these homeschool families. And this revival works itself out to the local church . . . our prayer: every Christian in the world is in a family integrated church. And there should be nothing but that, but you know what that is going to lead to? That\u2019s going to lead to people homeschooling! . . .\u201d<\/p>\n

(Fortunately, I take good notes).<\/p>\n

The excising in the case of this particular interview are precise: not only is the Generations Radio podcast missing (June 12, 2006), a little-known\u00a0 blog post favorably referencing the original interview is missing a the NCFIC website (January 21, 2009). But God is good: the Internet Archive has both webpages in memory (here<\/a> and here<\/a>).<\/p>\n

Why are these sources of Phillips’ beliefs and practices being removed?<\/p>\n

In the old days, when an otherwise upstanding minister goes off the deep end, his books were still accessible (thus, informative and maybe even helpful). In this case, they could be helpful for the upcoming trial. But in a digital age, information control is much easier to pull off.<\/p>\n

Are there things that he wrote or said that are an embarrassment?<\/p>\n

Perhaps Phillips asked (or told) them to remove the material?<\/p>\n

I do not know. That is why I am asking. The comment section is open for those in the know.<\/p>\n\"Facebook\"<\/a>\"twitter\"<\/a>\"reddit\"<\/a>\"pinterest\"<\/a>\"mail\"<\/a>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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